Healing Shame: Empire vs Unity Consciousness
The Wellness Warrior Podcast - June 2025
“Dr. Michael Obsatz: So, the whole idea of empire has to do with scarcity and fear, there’s not enough to go around. We define ourselves by our differences instead of our oneness and our connectedness. So am I this kind of man, in this situation, and that defines me. So that whole idea of healing from shame is simply letting go of the world’s definition of what you’re supposed to be and who you are. Realize that you are a beautiful child of the universe, and nobody can tell you otherwise, and nobody can take it away.
Dan Gorbunow: Hey, welcome to the Wellness Warrior podcast. I’m your host Dan Gorbunow. Educator, healer, and author. I am joined today in the studio by Dr. Michael Obsatz. Our topic is “shame.” In particular how shame relates to consciousness, creates an unhealthy cycle, and how it is part of larger consciousness that is projected onto men and people generally through intergenerational trauma, through cultural pressure, and through what Dr. Obsatz terms Empire Consciousness. He also offers some incredible insights about how to heal shame through Unity Consciousness. So that being said, without further ado, it’s my pleasure and privilege to welcome Dr. Michael Obsatz. Thanks for joining us today…”
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